Tuesday, December 6, 2011

A
TREATISE CONCERNING

THE

HEAVENLY ORIGIN

OF

OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST


Those who call upon the name of our Lord Jesus Christ in sincerity and truth have often times been brought to know that much of what is commonly known as Christianity is not biblical, but traditional. Such was the case of the state of religion in the days of our Lord Jesus Christ’s earthly, visible, physical ministry. How often do we read where our Lord rebuked the religious leaders of this time?


The first verse that comes to my mind when I consider this is (Mat 15:9; Mar 7:7) “..in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.” This is one of many plain rebukes our Lord leveled at the religious leaders of His day. No less than fourteen times did our Lord Jesus refer to them as “hypocrites” in the gospel of Matthew alone. May we not take more earnest heed that the same may be and is true in our day and time? Do the scriptures not teach that in the last days perilous times shall come and that men have a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof. Furthermore, we are taught from such turn away.

What do the scriptures teach us regarding the denial of the power of godliness?
What is the power of godliness? The scriptures teach us Christ the power of God and wisdom of God. It is also written, “I am not ashamed of the gospel of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to everyone that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.” What is then a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof? Is it not an earthly religion, philosophy, or science that denies Christ and His gospel?

Let me first state (and I speak for myself alone in so saying) that I am convinced that our Lord was born out of a virgin. The scriptures tell us “Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise: When as his mother Mary was espoused to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of the Holy Ghost. And again, “Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel.” Our Lord’s virgin birth is most assuredly a blessed and necessary truth.

Secondly, that our Lord was made a man of flesh and blood I also fully affirm. What I do find in the scriptures; however, is that the Lord partook of flesh and blood, but not Adamic flesh and blood. You well know from the scripture that Adam was created from the dust of the earth. Genesis 2:7 “And the LORD God formed man [of] the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

The apostle Paul speaks much regarding the earthly man and the heavenly man. In 1 Corinthians 15:21-23, it is written “For since by man [came] death, by man [came] also the resurrection of the dead. For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive. But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.” And, as you know, in 2 Corinthians 5:1, 2 “For we know that if our earthly house of [this] tabernacle were dissolved, we have a building of God, an house not made with hands, eternal in the heavens. For in this we groan, earnestly desiring to be clothed upon with our house which is from heaven:

We in Adam are made from the dust of the earth. Our bodies are styled natural, earthy, corruption, corruptible and mortal. 1 Corinthians 15:44-50, “It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body. And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam [was made] a quickening spirit. Howbeit that [was] not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual. The first man [is] of the earth, earthy: the second man [is] the Lord from heaven. As [is] the earthy, such [are] they also that are earthy: and as [is] the heavenly, such [are] they also that are heavenly. And as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly. Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.” And verses 53, 54, “For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal [must] put on immortality. So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.

Christ is nowhere said to be made from the dust of the earth. Rather, Our Lord is said to be a quickening spirit, spiritual, the Lord from heaven, heavenly, incorruption, and immortality. 1 Corinthians 15:44-50, “It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body. And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam [was made] a quickening spirit. Howbeit that [was] not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual. The first man [is] of the earth, earthy: the second man [is] the Lord from heaven. As [is] the earthy, such [are] they also that are earthy: and as [is] the heavenly, such [are] they also that are heavenly. And as we have borne the image of the earthy, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly. Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.” And verses 53, 54, “For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal [must] put on immortality. So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.

Please note carefully what the apostle Paul says, “There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.” “For we know that if our earthly house of [this] tabernacle were dissolved, we have a building of God, an house not made with hands, eternal in the heavens. For in this we groan, earnestly desiring to be clothed upon with our house which is from heaven:” Speaking to the believers in Corinth, he teaches them that there is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body (not that there will be a spiritual body.) He also teaches them, “that if our earthly house of [this] tabernacle were dissolved, we have a building of God, an house not made with hands, eternal in the heavens.” We HAVE a building of God, an house not made with hands, eternal in the heavens (i.e. a non-Adamic, Christ-like, spiritual body.)

Paul also taught in Romans 5:17-19, “For if by one man's offence death reigned by one; much more they which receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness shall reign in life by one, Jesus Christ.) Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life. For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.” Death reigns in Adam as does condemnation, but in Christ grace, righteousness, justification.
I answer, in regards to your view that Christ was the natural offspring of David, that David, being in Adam, died and saw corruption (Acts 13:36), but Christ who was raised from the dead saw no corruption (Acts 13:37). Christ did not see corruption because he was not made of the dust of the earth, but is out of heaven. I do agree that Christ holds legal title to David’s throne, but deny that He holds title to it according to physical lineage. David’s physical seed was and is Adamic, but Christ is heavenly. This is precisely where the Pharisees, Scribes, and Sadducees stumbled.

We have gospel proofs that Christ’s body saw no corruption. Mark 16:5, 6, “And entering into the sepulchre, they saw a young man sitting on the right side, clothed in a long white garment; and they were affrighted. And he saith unto them, Be not affrighted: Ye seek Jesus of Nazareth, which was crucified: he is risen; he is not here: behold the place where they laid him.” Luke 24:3 “And they entered in, and found not the body of the Lord Jesus.” John 20:2-8 “Then she runneth, and cometh to Simon Peter, and to the other disciple, whom Jesus loved, and saith unto them, They have taken away the Lord out of the sepulchre, and we know not where they have laid him. Peter therefore went forth, and that other disciple, and came to the sepulchre. So they ran both together: and the other disciple did outrun Peter, and came first to the sepulchre. And he stooping down, [and looking in], saw the linen clothes lying; yet went he not in. Then cometh Simon Peter following him, and went into the sepulchre, and seeth the linen clothes lie, And the napkin, that was about his head, not lying with the linen clothes, but wrapped together in a place by itself. Then went in also that other disciple, which came first to the sepulchre, and he saw, and believed.

Not yet fully understanding the scriptures, these women brought their spices to annoint Christ’s “corrupting” (that is decaying) body, but they found no corpse in the tomb and wondered where “His corpse” had been taken. Mark 6:6-14; Luke 24:3-48, from which I present verses 3-8, “And they entered in, and found not the body of the Lord Jesus. And it came to pass, as they were much perplexed thereabout, behold, two men stood by them in shining garments: And as they were afraid, and bowed down [their] faces to the earth, they said unto them, Why seek ye the living among the dead? He is not here, but is risen: remember how he spake unto you when he was yet in Galilee, Saying, The Son of man must be delivered into the hands of sinful men, and be crucified, and the third day rise again. And they remembered his words,

Please take note here from a very important passage of scripture that these came to the sepulcre to embalm, as they supposed, Christ’s dead body. Consider carefully the angels’ declaration “Why seek ye the living among the dead?” The dead are those whose bodies were out of the earth. The living is the Lord from heaven.

From verse 11, “And their words seemed to them as idle tales, and they believed them not.” The disciples did not believe the report that Christ Jesus was alive. In turn, they went to the sepulcre to see for themselves. Even after seeing Christ’s empty tomb they wondered. Why did they wonder? Verses 15-21 “And it came to pass, that, while they communed [together] and reasoned, Jesus himself drew near, and went with them. But their eyes were holden that they should not know him. And he said unto them, What manner of communications [are] these that ye have one to another, as ye walk, and are sad? And the one of them, whose name was Cleopas, answering said unto him, Art thou only a stranger in Jerusalem, and hast not known the things which are come to pass there in these days? And he said unto them, What things? And they said unto him, Concerning Jesus of Nazareth, which was a prophet mighty in deed and word before God and all the people: And how the chief priests and our rulers delivered him to be condemned to death, and have crucified him. But we trusted that it had been he which should have redeemed Israel: and beside all this, to day is the third day since these things were done.” Is it not that these disciples had expected an earthly redemption for the nation of Israel? Is this not why they were sad, because they had earthly hopes and expectations? In their earthly, carnal minds, they yet expected an earthly Messiah as did the scribes, Pharisees, and Saducees. They did not yet understand the spiritual nature of the Messiah and His kingdom, neither could they.

Verses 25-31 “Then he said unto them, O fools, and slow of heart to believe all that the prophets have spoken: Ought not Christ to have suffered these things, and to enter into his glory? And beginning at Moses and all the prophets, he expounded unto them in all the scriptures the things concerning himself. And they drew nigh unto the village, whither they went: and he made as though he would have gone further. But they constrained him, saying, Abide with us: for it is toward evening, and the day is far spent. And he went in to tarry with them. And it came to pass, as he sat at meat with them, he took bread, and blessed [it], and brake, and gave to them. And their eyes were opened, and they knew him; and he vanished out of their sight.” The Lord Jesus opened their heavenly, spiritual eyes and they knew him. He then vanished out of their earthly, physical sight.

The other disciples assembled in Jerusalem also did not yet understand Christ Jesus’ spiritual nature and spiritual kingdom. We read that our Lord appeared to them, verses 36, 37, “And as they thus spake, Jesus himself stood in the midst of them, and saith unto them, Peace [be] unto you. But they were terrified and affrighted, and supposed that they had seen a spirit.” They were scared of their Lord Jesus not knowing who He is. Our Lord then gave them visible proofs that it was He, verses 39-43, explained His spiritual nature to them, and “Then opened he their understanding, that they might understand the scriptures..” What understanding did he open? Their adamic, earthly minds, or their spiritual, heavenly minds?

So, we find from these scripture passages that Christ’s body and kingdom are not earthly. During our Lord’s physical, personal ministry on earth, even before His passion, He taught that “I am from above: ye are of this world; I am not of this world. John 8:23. Again, He said, “I am not of the world.” John 17:6. Speaking of his heavenly origin, our Lord prayed to His heavenly Father, “And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.

Regarding His kingdom, our Lord taught “My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence.” He contrasted His kingdom to the earthly, carnal Jews concept of a natural, birthright kingdom, teaching, “And I say unto you, That many shall come from the east and west, and shall sit down with Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, in the kingdom of heaven. But the (earthly, Adamic, JO)children of the (earthly Adamic, JO) kingdom shall be cast out into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth. Matt 8:11, 12. And, to show that His kingdom is not an earthly, adamic, carnal kingdom, but a heavenly, spiritual kingdom, our Lord taught in Matt 25:34, “Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:

You hold that Christ could not have a body prior to His virgin birth and you quote 1 Corinthians 15:46, “Howbeit that [was] not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual.” Based on this scripture you stated that there must first be an adamic body before there can be a spiritual resurrection body for that is the order Paul laid out.

I, firstly, would point out that this is no more speaking to order and origin than such scriptures as “work out your own salvation with fear and trembling” speak to order of salvation.

Secondly, I would say that Jesus Christ is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature: for by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him and for him: and he is before all things, and by him all things consist. And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the first born from the dead; that in all he might have the preemince.

If our Lord Jesus is before all things, how is it that He cannot exist until He have a body from Mary? If our Lord is the Head of the body, how is it that he has no body in which to be the head of His body until he receive it from Mary? How is our Lord Jesus termed the beginning, if He had no beginning until he received it from Mary? Is our Lord Jesus not He by whom all things were created?

Please consider Paul’s full teaching concerning the resurrection and proper order. 1 Corinthians 15:20-23, “But now is Christ risen from the dead, [and] become the firstfruits of them that slept. For since by man [came] death, by man [came] also the resurrection of the dead. For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive. But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.” Christ is first, then they who are Christ’s at His coming. Christ did not first need to have an adamic body to, in turn, have a heavenly spiritual body, but has had such a body from before creation.

You further contend that because I (and others, though I speak for myself) deny that Christ’s body was produced by the Holy Spirit impregnating Mary’s egg, we deny His coming in the flesh. You stated that the adamic nature comes from the man, not the woman, but I beg you to show me this from the scriptures. I can provide you scripture to the contrary.

Consider carefully Genesis 3:20 “And Adam called his wife's name Eve; because she was the mother of all living.” Now, I ask, was she the mother of all living, spiritually or naturally? I say naturally, but not spiritually because it is written of one of her immediate offspring, Cain, that he “was of that wicked one, and slew his brother. And wherefore slew he him? Because his own works were evil, and his brother's righteous.” 1 John 3:12. Therefore she is not the mother of all spiritual living, but of all natural living.

As she was taken from out of Adam (Genesis 2:22), she was of Adam. And as in Adam all die, she died in Adam’s headship. As she is the mother of all living souls, then is she, according to the scripture, the mother of all of Adam’s race. And if she is the mother of all of Adam’s race, then all her natural offspring are dead in Adam. And, if, the Holy Spirit fertilized one of her natural eggs, then would Christ be of the first Adam, but we know that our Lord Jesus is the Second Adam, the last man, the Lord from heaven and not of the first Adam naturally, else He would be dead.

That the Lord used Mary as a surrogate mother to nurture our Lord Jesus’ spotless, sinless flesh, I fully affirm, but that he came from her egg, I fully deny. Was she a virgin? Yes. Did our Lord’s non-biological father’s lineage trace back through David? Yes. Did his surrogate mother’s lineage trace back to Eve? Yes. Is our Lord out of the seed of the woman (Gensis 3:15)? Yes. Were the scriptures regarding Messiah, the Lord from heaven fullfilled? Yes

That our Lord Christ Jesus is from heaven is taught in the scriptures. Consider John 17:5, “And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was. Did our Lord Jesus have a glory with the Father before the world was, that he set aside; and then again took up in His Deity as God the Word, or as God-man Mediator? If you say in His Deity, then you have a mutable god. Please, show me from the scriptures where the LORD our God is mutable. He speaks here of Himself as God-man Mediator before the world was.

Again, Jesus said, John 6:51, “I am the living bread which came down from heaven: if any man eat of this bread, he shall live for ever: and the bread that I will give is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world.” He said, “I am the living bread which came down from heaven…the bread that I will give is my flesh.” Our Lord said that He was living flesh that came down from heaven. Did our Lord say that He came out of Mary’s egg or from heaven? Did our Lord come down from heaven living already or did He receive life from Mary, or life first at His resurrection?

Christ’s origin is not of the dust of the earth, but out of heaven, not dead in Adam, but living by the Father, John 6:57, “As the living Father hath sent me, and I live by the Father: so he that eateth me, even he shall live by me.” His body is heavenly, living flesh from the Father. It was given to him by the Father. He came down from heaven with living flesh. He did not receive living flesh from Mary or first in His resurrection. Our Lord said the Father sent Him with this living flesh.

What are the consequences if Christ was made from Mary’s adamic egg?
  1. When Adam sinned, all died. If Christ is of Mary’s adamic egg, then Christ died in Adam. Please show me scriptures that teach that Christ was dead in Adam.
  2. If Christ was dead in Adam, when did the dead Christ quicken Himself? In the womb? After His birth? Are there scriptures to declare this?
  3. Also, not only would Christ have died in Adam, if He was from her adamic egg, but He would have also been condemned in Adam. I find no scripture to teach that our Lord died and was condemned in Adam.
  4. If our Lord received His flesh from Mary, then how is it that His precious blood is termed God’s own blood (Acts 20:28)?
  5. If our Lord Jesus ever liveth to make intercession for His saints, but He had no body until He received it from Mary, why is it written that He ever liveth? Who interceded for Adam? Eve? Seth? Abraham? Moses?
  6. If our Lord Jesus is said to be called of God a High Priest after the order of Melchisedec, and Mechisedec was said to be made like unto the Son of God, and as such he is called King of Righteousness and King of Peace, without father, without mother, without descent, having neither beginning of days, nor end of life, Our Lord being made so by the power of an endless life, how can it be that He had no body until He received it from Mary?
  7. If our Lord Jesus had no body until He received it from Mary, how is it that He is termed the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world?

1 comment:

  1. That's a lot to chew on. Praise the Word which took on flesh!

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